after working on the last list, and seeing how flying tyrant lists might still be a problem for it, I once again dug though the supplements, and found a relic from crimson slaughter that allows a sorcerer to take psychic powers from the divination table.
after watching my bikers fail their charge by a inch, I looked into ways into giving them a re-roll for their charge, the icon of wrath does that, as well as provide furious charge to the unit (strength 7 on the characters, 9 for the power fist), it meant changing to mark of khrone for it, but that just makes the whole unit T5, so it makes working that out easier, and I'll just keep giving them invisibility or a 2+ cover save to dodge the strength 10 shots.
after changing my allies detachment for a full combined arms detachment to fit in the extra sorcerer, here's how the list looks now.
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PLAYER: Samuel cook
ALLIANCE LEVEL: BATTLE BROTHERS
PRIMARY DETACHMENT: COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT: Chaos space marines codex, Faction Chaos Space Marine
HQ1: Chaos lord (65) Mark of Khrone (10), Axe of blind fury (35), Sigil of corruption (25), Juggernaut of khrone (35). [170] (WARLORD)
HQ2: Sorcerer (60) Level 3 (50), Bike (20), Force stave (0), Spell Familiar (15), Aura of dark glory(15), burning brand of skalathrax (30). [190]
Troop1: Chaos space marines (75) + 5 Chaos space marines (5x13), 2 Plasma guns (2x15) [170]
Troop2: Chaos space marines (75) + 5 Chaos space marines (5x13), 2 Plasma guns (2x15) [170]
FA1: Chaos bikers (70) + 4 Chaos bikers (4x20), Mark of khrone (7x2), power fist (25), Veterans of the long war (7x1), icon of wrath (20) [216]
HS1: Maulerfiend (125) 2 Lasher tendrils (10) [135]
HS2: Maulerfiend (125) 2 Lasher tendrils (10) [135]
Transport1: Rhino (Transport Troop1) [35]
Transport2: Rhino (Transport Troop2) [35]
TOTAL [1256pts]
SECONDARY DETACHMENT: COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT: Crimson slaughter Codex supplement, Faction Chaos Space Marines
HQ1: Sorcerer (60) Level 3 (50), Bike (20), Force Axe (0), Spell Familiar (15), Aura of dark glory (15), melta bombs (5). [165]
HQ2: Sorcerer (60) Level 3 (50), Force Axe (0), Balestar of Mannon (25), Aura of dark glory (15). [150]
Troop1: chaos cultists + 1 cultist (4) [54]
Troop2: chaos cultists [50]
HS1: Havocs (75), 4 Missile launchers (4x15), flakk missiles (4x10) [175]
TOTAL [594pts]
Army total: [1850pts]
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had to take out some of the extra things I had on units (bikers melta guns, veteran of the long war) to get the extra sorcerer in, he sits with the havocs to get the most of the divination table (re-roll to hit and ignore cover please, and a 4++ would be nice too).
had to go with cultists for the troops, hide them off board and use them to grab objectives near my board edge.
on the bright side the sorcerer from the supplement with the bike will give the bikers fear for free which can be handy.
after watching my bikers fail their charge by a inch, I looked into ways into giving them a re-roll for their charge, the icon of wrath does that, as well as provide furious charge to the unit (strength 7 on the characters, 9 for the power fist), it meant changing to mark of khrone for it, but that just makes the whole unit T5, so it makes working that out easier, and I'll just keep giving them invisibility or a 2+ cover save to dodge the strength 10 shots.
after changing my allies detachment for a full combined arms detachment to fit in the extra sorcerer, here's how the list looks now.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
PLAYER: Samuel cook
ALLIANCE LEVEL: BATTLE BROTHERS
PRIMARY DETACHMENT: COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT: Chaos space marines codex, Faction Chaos Space Marine
HQ1: Chaos lord (65) Mark of Khrone (10), Axe of blind fury (35), Sigil of corruption (25), Juggernaut of khrone (35). [170] (WARLORD)
HQ2: Sorcerer (60) Level 3 (50), Bike (20), Force stave (0), Spell Familiar (15), Aura of dark glory(15), burning brand of skalathrax (30). [190]
Troop1: Chaos space marines (75) + 5 Chaos space marines (5x13), 2 Plasma guns (2x15) [170]
Troop2: Chaos space marines (75) + 5 Chaos space marines (5x13), 2 Plasma guns (2x15) [170]
FA1: Chaos bikers (70) + 4 Chaos bikers (4x20), Mark of khrone (7x2), power fist (25), Veterans of the long war (7x1), icon of wrath (20) [216]
HS1: Maulerfiend (125) 2 Lasher tendrils (10) [135]
HS2: Maulerfiend (125) 2 Lasher tendrils (10) [135]
Transport1: Rhino (Transport Troop1) [35]
Transport2: Rhino (Transport Troop2) [35]
TOTAL [1256pts]
SECONDARY DETACHMENT: COMBINED ARMS DETACHMENT: Crimson slaughter Codex supplement, Faction Chaos Space Marines
HQ1: Sorcerer (60) Level 3 (50), Bike (20), Force Axe (0), Spell Familiar (15), Aura of dark glory (15), melta bombs (5). [165]
HQ2: Sorcerer (60) Level 3 (50), Force Axe (0), Balestar of Mannon (25), Aura of dark glory (15). [150]
Troop1: chaos cultists + 1 cultist (4) [54]
Troop2: chaos cultists [50]
HS1: Havocs (75), 4 Missile launchers (4x15), flakk missiles (4x10) [175]
TOTAL [594pts]
Army total: [1850pts]
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had to take out some of the extra things I had on units (bikers melta guns, veteran of the long war) to get the extra sorcerer in, he sits with the havocs to get the most of the divination table (re-roll to hit and ignore cover please, and a 4++ would be nice too).
had to go with cultists for the troops, hide them off board and use them to grab objectives near my board edge.
on the bright side the sorcerer from the supplement with the bike will give the bikers fear for free which can be handy.
40K: Orks and Chaos Space Marines
standard deffwing tactic: rush fast and hit like a runaway freight train with a rocket booster on the last carriage...
remember kids, never trust an ork who shows his teeth
standard deffwing tactic: rush fast and hit like a runaway freight train with a rocket booster on the last carriage...
remember kids, never trust an ork who shows his teeth