21-09-2016, 04:31 PM
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From the Hawk forum just in case there are unregistered members here 
it's from another member but he does a lot of video bat reps for dropfleet using the admiral rules so knows his stuff.
http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/hawkforum/vie...848#p75848
"UCM Overview and Roles of Ships, no Stats no points
PostWed Sep 21, 2016 2:10 pm
So i thought this is Information wich all of you can gain for free... its like a how does the Faction play... and with this a base understanding of mechanics and fleet building should be easier!
enjoy and comment!
Base inputs on all knowen variants of ships
this info is all from the last BETA and the news LEAKS of the coming rulebook!
no stats or point values are revealed here!
UCM overall tactics
role: high damage output, average health and good armor, best firing arcs
my comment: can do everything but nothing really good .... ;-D, best ships of UCM are the jakarta and the avalon
UCM Light Ships
Corvettes
Name Top Secret ;-D
role: atmospheric anti ship vessels
my comment: hunting enemy strike carriers for example
Frigates
Jakarta
role: support other ships in a sphere of influence by raising Point Defense systems against close action weaponsystems
my comment defending against bomber runs or closeaction ships form shaltari and scourge
Lima
role: support is scanning enemy ships and adding them energyspiks so other frindly can shoot them from distanz
my commnet: to give some heavy main weapons priority targets like enemy troopships or command ships that try to hide, or do a reveal of som "silent running" scourge
New Orleans strike carrier
role: deploy troops and tanks from atmosphere
my comment: well its usefull to get some sectores in enemy territoris, they are very save in atmo as long as there are no enemy corvettes but they do lack of deployment in low numbers
Taipei
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: fast and can do damage frome behinde the enemy lines, need to be in a bigger number to be effective and is very fragile
Toulon
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well if you have some points over its a okay unit, its a cheap ship compared to its output
UCM Medium Ships
Light Cruisers
Osaka
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well fast and good weapon arcs, can act very good to new situations
New Cairo
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output
my comment: burntrough weapons can hurt very much but they have front arcs, if the burntrough hits it adds a energy spike to their traget like the Lima does
UCM Medium Cruisers
Rio
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: thats the main standard ship of UCM a allrounder anti ship, same output then the osaka but more resistant
Berlin
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output
my comment: same as new cairo but again more resistant and in the end less expensive because the light cruisers always need to be taken in pairs this one can be taken as single
Madrid
role: bombardement of sectors to eleminate enemy ground units
my comment: its a easy way to take out enemy ground tanks without deploying by yourself, but be aware you need to be in low orbit that can be dangerus for bigger ships
San Francisco
role: troopship deploys mass of infantry or defense batteries
my comment: they are much bigger transports then "strike carrier" but they will be bulletmagnets and need to be guarded or they will go down very fast
Seattle carrier
role: support fighter/bomber launch value and anti ship weapons
my comment:fighter help active against incoming Close Action fire with Point Defense increasd, Bomber do Close Action damage at enemys out of scanrange, the UCM count more on allrounder and ahve lesser launch asset numbers combinated with a well armed main weapon on the carrier
UCM Heavy Cruisers
moscow
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output, lots of weapons
my comment: bigger brother of the "Rio" if this one goes weapons free then the enemy will cry, again more resistant and HP
st petersburg
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output, lots of weapons
my comment: bigger brother of the "Berlin" if this one goes weapons free then the enemy will cry, again more resistant and HP
UCM Battlecruisers
Avalon
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output, heavyest weapon of UCM
my comment: the "viper super heavy laser" is like a deathstar laser, but it has downsides, using this big weapon generates energie spikes on the Avalon itself and because of this and the fear of the enemy this ship will die first because your enemy will focus on it in every possible situation
Atalntis
role: anit ship and support fighter/bomber
my comment: its a combination of a "seattle carrier" and a "moscow", if you dont have enougth slots and want a shiny commander ship thats a good average output choice
UCM Battleships
Beijing
role: anti ship
my comment: with its mass and the second best health and armor out there its a perfect tank to eat up enemy fire, it has good fireing arcs to shoot back in every situation very good command flagship in my opinion
New York
role: support fighter/bomber and torpedoes
my comment: health like the beijing but less main weapons, if you want to sit back wiht your commander and support the fleet thats your ship, the torpedo will scar of bigger enemys
Tokyo
role: bombardement and mybe some unknowen extras
my comment: not much reveald about this variant of Battleship, its like the others but with the focus of supporting sectors by covering troops wtih arty, i like the idea
Scourge overall tactics
role: close actions, atmospheric, stealth, fast but low armor, special close action rule to overcome enemy armor better, lesser dice with more damage output
my comments: ship roles are identical to the UCM variants with more to speed and lesser protection, best ships of scourge are the Battlecruisers
Scourge Light ships
Corvettes
Name Top Secret ;-D
role: atmospheric anti ship vessels
my comment: hunting enemy strike carriers for example
Frigates
Scylla
role: goes atmospheric and has sepcial main weapons taht can shoot at higher orbitals
my comment: its a submarine like typ of gameplay, it can be a very effectiv way of hurting the enemy out of a save spot but youll need to know wehre to position to be effectiv, you cant move much in atmosphere
gargoyle strike carrier
role: deploy troops and tanks from atmosphere
my comment: well its usefull to get some sectores in enemy territoris, they are very save in atmo as long as there are no enemy corvettes but they do lack of deployment in low numbers, faster then UCM ones but lesser armor
charybdis
role: bombardement and atmospheric
my comment: only bombardement unit of scourge so it has his place and i think its very usefull, take it in bigger numbers
djinn
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: fast and can do damage frome behinde the enemy lines, need to be in a bigger number to be effective and is very fragile
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well if you have some points over its a okay unit, its a cheap ship compared to its output
Scourge Medium Ships
Scourge Light Cruisers
Strix
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: very big damage output if it gets close in, but very weak can be shoot down fast, normaly enemy knows that and will try to stop you before you can unleash this power prowler
yokai
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well very fast and good weapon arcs, can act very good to new situations
Scourge Medium Cruisers
wyvern
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: same as "strix" but again more resistant and in the end less expensive because the light cruisers always need to be taken in pairs this one can be taken as single
ifrit
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output
my comment: burntrough weapons can hurt very much but they have front arcs, if the burntrough hits it adds a energy spike to their traget, this scourge has a alternative mode where the laser does more Damage but no energie spike
sphinx
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: thats the main standard ship of Scourge a allrounder anti ship, same output then the "yokai" but more resistant
chimera
role: troopship deploys mass of infantry or defense batteries
my comment: they are much bigger transports then "strike carrier" but they will be bulletmagnets and need to be guarded or they will go down very fast, the scourge have the fastest troopships ingame
hydra carrier
role: support fighter/bomber launch value
my comment:fighter help active against incoming Close Action fire with Point Defense increasd, Bomber do Close Action damage at enemys out of scanrange, scourge have very big number of launch assets per ship
Scourge heavy Cruisers
shenlong
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output, lots of weapons
my comment: bigger brother of the "sphinx" if this one goes weapons free then the enemy will cry, again more resistant and HP
raiju
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output, one big weapon
my comment: bigger brother of the "ifrit" this one is almost as strong as the UCM "super heavy laser" ..., again more resistant and HP, and as well alternate firing mode like the "ifirt"
Scourge battlecruiser
basilisk
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output, lots of weapons
my comment: its a combination of a "shenlong" and a "yokai", if you dont have enougth slots and want a shiny commander ship thats a good average output choic, i love the special rules of the Battlecruisers of Scourge i would always use as many as possible if i would play Scourge!
manticore
role: anti ship and support torpedo launchers, as well strong close action weaponsystems
my comment: a really big Beast that can cause massive damage to everything out there small or big doesnt care, i love this one its an alle of the Scourge special and best stuff on one ship combinated!
Scourge battleships
deamon battleship
role: anti ship
my comment: with its mass and the second best health and armor out there its a perfect tank to eat up enemy fire, it has good fireing arcs to shoot back in every situation very good command flagship in my opinion, faster then UCM ones but lesser armor
dragon battleship
role: support fighter/bomber and torpedoes
my comment: health like the "deamon" but less main weapons, if you want to sit back wiht your commander and support the fleet thats your ship, the torpedo will scar of bigger enemys, faster then UCM ones but lesser armor"
it's from another member but he does a lot of video bat reps for dropfleet using the admiral rules so knows his stuff.http://www.hawkforum.co.uk/hawkforum/vie...848#p75848
"UCM Overview and Roles of Ships, no Stats no points
PostWed Sep 21, 2016 2:10 pm
So i thought this is Information wich all of you can gain for free... its like a how does the Faction play... and with this a base understanding of mechanics and fleet building should be easier!
enjoy and comment!
Base inputs on all knowen variants of ships
this info is all from the last BETA and the news LEAKS of the coming rulebook!
no stats or point values are revealed here!
UCM overall tactics
role: high damage output, average health and good armor, best firing arcs
my comment: can do everything but nothing really good .... ;-D, best ships of UCM are the jakarta and the avalon
UCM Light Ships
Corvettes
Name Top Secret ;-D
role: atmospheric anti ship vessels
my comment: hunting enemy strike carriers for example
Frigates
Jakarta
role: support other ships in a sphere of influence by raising Point Defense systems against close action weaponsystems
my comment defending against bomber runs or closeaction ships form shaltari and scourge
Lima
role: support is scanning enemy ships and adding them energyspiks so other frindly can shoot them from distanz
my commnet: to give some heavy main weapons priority targets like enemy troopships or command ships that try to hide, or do a reveal of som "silent running" scourge
New Orleans strike carrier
role: deploy troops and tanks from atmosphere
my comment: well its usefull to get some sectores in enemy territoris, they are very save in atmo as long as there are no enemy corvettes but they do lack of deployment in low numbers
Taipei
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: fast and can do damage frome behinde the enemy lines, need to be in a bigger number to be effective and is very fragile
Toulon
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well if you have some points over its a okay unit, its a cheap ship compared to its output
UCM Medium Ships
Light Cruisers
Osaka
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well fast and good weapon arcs, can act very good to new situations
New Cairo
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output
my comment: burntrough weapons can hurt very much but they have front arcs, if the burntrough hits it adds a energy spike to their traget like the Lima does
UCM Medium Cruisers
Rio
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: thats the main standard ship of UCM a allrounder anti ship, same output then the osaka but more resistant
Berlin
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output
my comment: same as new cairo but again more resistant and in the end less expensive because the light cruisers always need to be taken in pairs this one can be taken as single
Madrid
role: bombardement of sectors to eleminate enemy ground units
my comment: its a easy way to take out enemy ground tanks without deploying by yourself, but be aware you need to be in low orbit that can be dangerus for bigger ships
San Francisco
role: troopship deploys mass of infantry or defense batteries
my comment: they are much bigger transports then "strike carrier" but they will be bulletmagnets and need to be guarded or they will go down very fast
Seattle carrier
role: support fighter/bomber launch value and anti ship weapons
my comment:fighter help active against incoming Close Action fire with Point Defense increasd, Bomber do Close Action damage at enemys out of scanrange, the UCM count more on allrounder and ahve lesser launch asset numbers combinated with a well armed main weapon on the carrier
UCM Heavy Cruisers
moscow
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output, lots of weapons
my comment: bigger brother of the "Rio" if this one goes weapons free then the enemy will cry, again more resistant and HP
st petersburg
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output, lots of weapons
my comment: bigger brother of the "Berlin" if this one goes weapons free then the enemy will cry, again more resistant and HP
UCM Battlecruisers
Avalon
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output, heavyest weapon of UCM
my comment: the "viper super heavy laser" is like a deathstar laser, but it has downsides, using this big weapon generates energie spikes on the Avalon itself and because of this and the fear of the enemy this ship will die first because your enemy will focus on it in every possible situation
Atalntis
role: anit ship and support fighter/bomber
my comment: its a combination of a "seattle carrier" and a "moscow", if you dont have enougth slots and want a shiny commander ship thats a good average output choice
UCM Battleships
Beijing
role: anti ship
my comment: with its mass and the second best health and armor out there its a perfect tank to eat up enemy fire, it has good fireing arcs to shoot back in every situation very good command flagship in my opinion
New York
role: support fighter/bomber and torpedoes
my comment: health like the beijing but less main weapons, if you want to sit back wiht your commander and support the fleet thats your ship, the torpedo will scar of bigger enemys
Tokyo
role: bombardement and mybe some unknowen extras
my comment: not much reveald about this variant of Battleship, its like the others but with the focus of supporting sectors by covering troops wtih arty, i like the idea
Scourge overall tactics
role: close actions, atmospheric, stealth, fast but low armor, special close action rule to overcome enemy armor better, lesser dice with more damage output
my comments: ship roles are identical to the UCM variants with more to speed and lesser protection, best ships of scourge are the Battlecruisers
Scourge Light ships
Corvettes
Name Top Secret ;-D
role: atmospheric anti ship vessels
my comment: hunting enemy strike carriers for example
Frigates
Scylla
role: goes atmospheric and has sepcial main weapons taht can shoot at higher orbitals
my comment: its a submarine like typ of gameplay, it can be a very effectiv way of hurting the enemy out of a save spot but youll need to know wehre to position to be effectiv, you cant move much in atmosphere
gargoyle strike carrier
role: deploy troops and tanks from atmosphere
my comment: well its usefull to get some sectores in enemy territoris, they are very save in atmo as long as there are no enemy corvettes but they do lack of deployment in low numbers, faster then UCM ones but lesser armor
charybdis
role: bombardement and atmospheric
my comment: only bombardement unit of scourge so it has his place and i think its very usefull, take it in bigger numbers
djinn
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: fast and can do damage frome behinde the enemy lines, need to be in a bigger number to be effective and is very fragile
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well if you have some points over its a okay unit, its a cheap ship compared to its output
Scourge Medium Ships
Scourge Light Cruisers
Strix
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: very big damage output if it gets close in, but very weak can be shoot down fast, normaly enemy knows that and will try to stop you before you can unleash this power prowler
yokai
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: well very fast and good weapon arcs, can act very good to new situations
Scourge Medium Cruisers
wyvern
role: close action prowler like anti ship
my comment: same as "strix" but again more resistant and in the end less expensive because the light cruisers always need to be taken in pairs this one can be taken as single
ifrit
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output
my comment: burntrough weapons can hurt very much but they have front arcs, if the burntrough hits it adds a energy spike to their traget, this scourge has a alternative mode where the laser does more Damage but no energie spike
sphinx
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output
my comment: thats the main standard ship of Scourge a allrounder anti ship, same output then the "yokai" but more resistant
chimera
role: troopship deploys mass of infantry or defense batteries
my comment: they are much bigger transports then "strike carrier" but they will be bulletmagnets and need to be guarded or they will go down very fast, the scourge have the fastest troopships ingame
hydra carrier
role: support fighter/bomber launch value
my comment:fighter help active against incoming Close Action fire with Point Defense increasd, Bomber do Close Action damage at enemys out of scanrange, scourge have very big number of launch assets per ship
Scourge heavy Cruisers
shenlong
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output, lots of weapons
my comment: bigger brother of the "sphinx" if this one goes weapons free then the enemy will cry, again more resistant and HP
raiju
role: anit ship burnthrough high dmaga output, one big weapon
my comment: bigger brother of the "ifrit" this one is almost as strong as the UCM "super heavy laser" ..., again more resistant and HP, and as well alternate firing mode like the "ifirt"
Scourge battlecruiser
basilisk
role: anti ship weapons standard variant average damage output, lots of weapons
my comment: its a combination of a "shenlong" and a "yokai", if you dont have enougth slots and want a shiny commander ship thats a good average output choic, i love the special rules of the Battlecruisers of Scourge i would always use as many as possible if i would play Scourge!
manticore
role: anti ship and support torpedo launchers, as well strong close action weaponsystems
my comment: a really big Beast that can cause massive damage to everything out there small or big doesnt care, i love this one its an alle of the Scourge special and best stuff on one ship combinated!
Scourge battleships
deamon battleship
role: anti ship
my comment: with its mass and the second best health and armor out there its a perfect tank to eat up enemy fire, it has good fireing arcs to shoot back in every situation very good command flagship in my opinion, faster then UCM ones but lesser armor
dragon battleship
role: support fighter/bomber and torpedoes
my comment: health like the "deamon" but less main weapons, if you want to sit back wiht your commander and support the fleet thats your ship, the torpedo will scar of bigger enemys, faster then UCM ones but lesser armor"