The Alpha legion has infiltrated this forum - Please remain calm

[Gareth]

I don't know much about the 30K armies other then they can stack more special weapons more cost efficiently and in greater numbers then normal marines, pay a bit more for the initial squad, but then less for additions making large units cost efficient and they can pick army wide buffs from a large range of upgrades for free.

I dunno these seem like win wins for the 30K units :S

Come find me on the 9th (tuesday after next whatever that is). i will have my rule book aswell as codex space marines and you can compare if you so wish.

Put it this way. For 1000 points i can put 32 infantry bases on the table. 4 of those are gunners for heresy era version of thunderfires. Thats 2 ten man tactical squads, 1 heavy weapon squad with missle launchers (5 and 5) and my hq. Plus a whirlwind.

Charlie there are a few differences. 30k era Marines loose and they shall know no fear. They cost more per marine than standard, but by taking larger numbers of them you then start to save points. Another key thing is that their equipment is fairly inflexible. Tactical squad equivalents have Bolters or Bolt Pistol / CCW. No special or heavy weapon option. Those come in seperate squads, but all members have to have the same weapon, so unlike Devistators who can be equipped to fulfil various roles, you get 5 of the same weapon.

However the main thing is that they have been designed even more so, than regular 40k, to tell a story and play in a campaign based structure.