06-04-2012, 04:51 PM
Been meaning to comment on this. Thanks for the refresher Andy.
1 - Teclis is the bomb, but fragile as glass. You need a decent sized unit to stop him getting shot to pieces. A unit of under 5, will not allow him a look out sir, and ballistic missile fire can get randomised onto him. Easiest way to deal with him is to shoot him.
2 - None of your units are big enough. As useful as it is to have two small units of bowmen with the ability to split targets, you will find that 8th edition is about big units. You will struggle to delete enough of an incoming combat unit, with 20 shots as it is, but you will just be offering easy points to your opponent, by splitting them up.
3 - Sea Guard are poor. You are paying a premium for the ability to carry a spear and shield on your bowmen, but are sacrificing range on their bows. Its annoying as the IoB set contains some nice looking models, but I would rather save the points, and turn them into bowmen.
4 - I disagree with Andy on his views over the Swordmasters. They will delete a unit in combat, and as he said they will get shot to pieces, but Andy's view is based on his experiences with Dark Elves, an army where everyone carries a bow. Against many other forces (Chaos, VC, Orcs, Brets, Beasts, most 7th Ed Empire builds, Orges, Tomb Kings, Skaven,) the number of non-warmachine shots are at a premium. Of the 3 Special foot troop disciplines, they are the strongest, but also the most fragile. However a Life wielding Teclis, would be able to give them high toughness, and regen, meaning their survivability goes sky high.
5 - If you want Cavalry use the Dragon Princes. Drop the Silver Helms and Reavers, and take a nice bus of better knights. The ability to take a magic standard and a magic item are priceless.
Of course it's your army, and you are free to take what you want too. But I would advise strongly at a minimum to increase unit size to 20-30 models (on foot.) You will finding it hard to get many units on the table, but thats to be expected using an elite force. Smaller units, especially at T3 will get deleted, and your magic buffs, cannot be everywhere at once.
Oh and be aware, Andy will probably destroy you 9 times out of 10 even with advise, but thats because his army book is bent.
1 - Teclis is the bomb, but fragile as glass. You need a decent sized unit to stop him getting shot to pieces. A unit of under 5, will not allow him a look out sir, and ballistic missile fire can get randomised onto him. Easiest way to deal with him is to shoot him.
2 - None of your units are big enough. As useful as it is to have two small units of bowmen with the ability to split targets, you will find that 8th edition is about big units. You will struggle to delete enough of an incoming combat unit, with 20 shots as it is, but you will just be offering easy points to your opponent, by splitting them up.
3 - Sea Guard are poor. You are paying a premium for the ability to carry a spear and shield on your bowmen, but are sacrificing range on their bows. Its annoying as the IoB set contains some nice looking models, but I would rather save the points, and turn them into bowmen.
4 - I disagree with Andy on his views over the Swordmasters. They will delete a unit in combat, and as he said they will get shot to pieces, but Andy's view is based on his experiences with Dark Elves, an army where everyone carries a bow. Against many other forces (Chaos, VC, Orcs, Brets, Beasts, most 7th Ed Empire builds, Orges, Tomb Kings, Skaven,) the number of non-warmachine shots are at a premium. Of the 3 Special foot troop disciplines, they are the strongest, but also the most fragile. However a Life wielding Teclis, would be able to give them high toughness, and regen, meaning their survivability goes sky high.
5 - If you want Cavalry use the Dragon Princes. Drop the Silver Helms and Reavers, and take a nice bus of better knights. The ability to take a magic standard and a magic item are priceless.
Of course it's your army, and you are free to take what you want too. But I would advise strongly at a minimum to increase unit size to 20-30 models (on foot.) You will finding it hard to get many units on the table, but thats to be expected using an elite force. Smaller units, especially at T3 will get deleted, and your magic buffs, cannot be everywhere at once.
Oh and be aware, Andy will probably destroy you 9 times out of 10 even with advise, but thats because his army book is bent.
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