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JJ's Adeptus Custodes List Development
#1
Hey folks, thought I'd start a thread to develop my list for Battlefield Birmingham on 15th September.

My 1st draft list is:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [13 PL, 267pts] ++
Gametype: Matched
Regimental Doctrine: Cadian
+ HQ +
Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Grand Strategist, Kurov's Aquila, Laspistol, Warlord
Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol
+ Troops +
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 69pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 69pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 69pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

++ Vanguard Detachment (Imperium - Officio Assassinorum) [14 PL, 235pts] ++
+ Elites +
Callidus Assassin [5 PL, 80pts]
Culexus Assassin [5 PL, 85pts]
Eversor Assassin [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [75 PL, 1495pts] ++
Open the Vaults (2 Relics)
+ HQ +
Shield-Captain [7 PL, 134pts]: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Auric Aquilis, Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
+ Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
+ Elites +
Allarus Custodians [13 PL, 264pts]
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Vexillus Praetor in Allarus Terminator Armor [7 PL, 154pts]: Misericordia, Praetorian Plate, Vexilla Imperius
+ Fast Attack +
Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 282pts]
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
++ Total: [102 PL, 1997pts] ++

This would give me 13 CP to start with, of which I'd immediately spend:
Open the Vaults - 2 relics for 3CP

During deployment I'd spend another 2CP to give my biker captain victor of the blood games (getting the CP back on a 5+ after my IG warlord is down).

There are some good combos involving the vexilla and teleport homers and I'd be looking to put as close to half my force as possible into reserve ~51PL including the assassins (14PL), the terminators (13PL) and all of my Custodian Guards (24PL).
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#2
Don't forget that taking Imperial Knights in a Super Heavy Detachment grants more CP now. I think if you have at least 3 titanic units it grants +6 CP as per the FAQ.
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#3
(28-07-2018, 01:58 PM)jjakaalbinoboy Wrote: Cheers Luke but I was looking for feedback on my list really in this thread, could you please copy your post across into your own list thread for BB14.

No problem. 

I like the concept as it's similar to mine, how do you plan to deal with Knights though. I don't know the Custodes Codex that well but I don't see much anti tank?
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#4
Cheers Luke.

In my game against Andy, my shooting had very little effect on the knights, most of the damage I did was in close combat with the Custodes. They have decent number of attacks with medium strength, high AP and multi damage.
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(27-07-2018, 10:54 PM)jjakaalbinoboy Wrote: Hey folks, thought I'd start a thread to develop my list for Battlefield Birmingham on 15th September.

My 1st draft list is:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [13 PL, 267pts] ++
Gametype: Matched
Regimental Doctrine: Cadian
+ HQ +
Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Grand Strategist, Kurov's Aquila, Laspistol, Warlord
Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol
+ Troops +
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 69pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 69pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 69pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Autocannon
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

++ Vanguard Detachment (Imperium - Officio Assassinorum) [14 PL, 235pts] ++
+ Elites +
Callidus Assassin [5 PL, 80pts]
Culexus Assassin [5 PL, 85pts]
Eversor Assassin [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [75 PL, 1495pts] ++
Open the Vaults (2 Relics)
+ HQ +
Shield-Captain [7 PL, 134pts]: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Auric Aquilis, Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
+ Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 171pts]
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
+ Elites +
Allarus Custodians [13 PL, 264pts]
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Vexillus Praetor in Allarus Terminator Armor [7 PL, 154pts]: Misericordia, Praetorian Plate, Vexilla Imperius
+ Fast Attack +
Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 282pts]
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
++ Total: [102 PL, 1997pts] ++

This would give me 13 CP to start with, of which I'd immediately spend:
Open the Vaults - 2 relics for 3CP

During deployment I'd spend another 2CP to give my biker captain victor of the blood games (getting the CP back on a 5+ after my IG warlord is down).

There are some good combos involving the vexilla and teleport homers and I'd be looking to put as close to half my force as possible into reserve ~51PL including the assassins (14PL), the terminators (13PL) and all of my Custodian Guards (24PL).

Looks good might want to try 2 Culexus and an evisor with one starting on the board so you have some anti smite if you don’t get first turn also the callidus can Be a little disappointing in combat.
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#6
Considering taking this list now:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [13 PL, 188pts] ++
Gametype: Matched
Regimental Doctrine: Cadian

+ HQ +
Company Commander [2 PL, 34pts]: Kurov's Aquila, Laspistol, Power sword
Company Commander [2 PL, 34pts]: Grand Strategist, Laspistol, Power sword, Warlord

+ Troops +
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [25 PL, 501pts] ++
Household Choice: House Hawkshroud, Questor Imperialis
+ Lord of War +
Knight Crusader [25 PL, 501pts]: Heavy stubber, Ironstorm missile pod
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger gatling cannon, Heavy flamer
. Rapid-fire battle cannon w/ heavy stubber: Heavy stubber, Rapid-fire battle cannon

++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [67 PL, 1311pts] ++
Open the Vaults (2 Relics)
+ HQ +
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Eagle's Eye, Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Auric Aquilis, Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

+ Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [14 PL, 283pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia
. Custodian: Guardian Spear, Misericordia

+ Elites +
Allarus Custodians [13 PL, 264pts]
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe, Misericordia
Vexillus Praetor in Allarus Terminator Armor [7 PL, 154pts]: Misericordia, Vexilla Imperius

+ Fast Attack +
Vertus Praetors [15 PL, 282pts]
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

++ Total: [105 PL, 2000pts] ++
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#7
I prefer the second list, what’s your answer for knights if you don’t get turn one though? As your knight will be a smoking wreck
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(30-08-2018, 06:24 PM)Simian Wrote: I prefer the second list, what’s your answer for knights if you don’t get turn one though? As your knight will be a smoking wreck

In my game against Andy with his Knights, my Custodes did most of the damage in close combat against them as high strength, high AP, multi attack/damage weapons.
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#9
Because I want to at least be eligible for best in faction, I have to have a Custodes Warlord. Looked at going pure Custodes but I reckon this might be best:

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [51 PL, 981pts] ++
Open the Vaults (1 Relic)

+ HQ +
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Auric Aquilis (3++ & re-roll charges), Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia, Warlord, Radiant Mantle (-1 to hit)
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Eagle's Eye (3++), Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike [9 PL, 164pts]: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

+ Troops +
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
Custodian Guard Squad [8 PL, 163pts]
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Guardian Spear
. Custodian: Guardian Spear

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) [41 PL, 775pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Use Beta Rules
+ HQ +
Shield Captain in Allarus Terminator Armor [8 PL, 148pts]: Castellan Axe, Misericordia

+ Elites +
Allarus Custodians [13 PL, 252pts]
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe
. Allarus Custodian: Castellan Axe
Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought (Beta) [13 PL, 245pts]: Achillus Dreadspear, 2x Lastrum Storm Bolter
Vexillus Praetor in Allarus Terminator Armor [7 PL, 130pts]: Vexilla Magnifica

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [13 PL, 221pts] ++
Regimental Doctrine: Cadian
+ HQ +
Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Kurov's Aquila, Laspistol
Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Troops +
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 6x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Sergeant: Laspistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 6x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Sergeant: Laspistol
Infantry Squad [3 PL, 52pts]
. 6x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Sergeant: Laspistol

++ Total: [105 PL, 1977pts] ++

I'll use the left over points for Misericordia for the Custodes. This gives me 14 CP. Spend 1 CP for 1 extra Custodes relic for another of the biker captains. The first (Warlord) has Auric Aquilis (3++) and re-rolls failed charges, second Eagle Eye (3++). Spend 1 CP for Kurovs Aquila (Get a CP per enemy strat on 5+) on the 1st company commander. Leaves me with 12 CP. Pay 1 CP to deep strike the dreadnought along with all the Allarus from the Vanugard which can deep strike for free. Pay 2 CP to give the 1st bike captain victor of the blood games. Warlord trait is Radiant Mantle (-1 to hit) Leaving me on 9 CP at the end of deployment.

Plan would be to deep strike all of vanugard detachment. Deploy guard battalion in front with custodes detachment behind.

Thoughts?
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#10
Looks Solid, albeit slightly lacking in anti tank. I don't think you need it necessarily, as the list seems well built to play the objective game, with the deepstriking dread and terminators going after key targets.

I haven't got my Codex to hand but do the Custodes troops get Obsec?

Also, the 5+ FNP Warlord trait could be an idea as well, especially if you put it on the first Captain and give him VotBG

Another option with the spare points could be to switch one of the Commanders out for a Primaris Pysker? Been impressed with mine so far, even for cheap smites and deny the witch he's quite effective.
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