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Midlands Maelstrom 2 list ideas
#1
Hey All,

We seem to be missing the traditional tournament list building ideas, and helping each other out thread for the upcoming maelstrom 2 tournament. So I thought I'd fix that Big Grin

Anyway after being told off by the hotlz podcast, for poor excuses, I will be running UCM. I'm going to try something a bit, different  though. So far one test game against luke and his Shaltari has gone well, but more games are needed!

The primary group I am concerned about is the twin Moscow due to the high SR and low speed, but they are a very scary group and must be delt with which is supposed to give my troopships a free reign! They might get replaced by destroyers when we find out more about them.

What about you guys, what are you thinking of taking?


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Ballroom Blitz - 1227pts
UCM - 0 launch assets

SR15 Flag battlegroup (252pts)
1 x Beijing - 252pts - S
   + UCM Admiral (40pts, 5AV)

SR20 Vanguard battlegroup (326pts)
1 x Moscow - 163pts - H
1 x Moscow - 163pts - H

SR10 Line battlegroup (222pts)
1 x San Francisco - 111pts - M
1 x San Francisco - 111pts - M

SR5 Line battlegroup (111pts)
1 x San Francisco - 111pts - M

SR9 Pathfinder battlegroup (198pts)
3 x Santiago - 66pts - L
3 x Santiago - 66pts - L
3 x Santiago - 66pts - L

SR2 Pathfinder battlegroup (78pts)
2 x Taipei - 78pts - L
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Edit: spelling; because my phone things maelstrom is spelt mealstorm
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#2
That is a really weird list Will, interested to see how it plays next week!

Having only played one game since Tlalacon, at the moment I will be taking either a similar one to my Tlalacon list (with double battlecruisers)or one which is a bit more frigate heavy and no chimera:

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Tlalacon - 1239pts
Scourge - 10 launch assets

SR10 Vanguard battlegroup (205pts)
1 x Basilisk - 205pts - H

SR10 Vanguard battlegroup (205pts)
1 x Akuma - 205pts - H
   + Fleet Champion (40pts, 3AV)

SR9 Line battlegroup (233pts)
1 x Chimera - 105pts - M
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L

SR9 Line battlegroup (268pts)
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L
1 x Hydra - 140pts - M

SR5 Line battlegroup (140pts)
1 x Hydra - 140pts - M

SR4 Pathfinder battlegroup (168pts)
4 x Scylla - 168pts - L
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scourge tournament - 1237pts
Scourge - 10 launch assets

SR10 Vanguard battlegroup (205pts)
1 x Akuma - 205pts - H
   + Fleet Champion (40pts, 3AV)

SR9 Line battlegroup (268pts)
1 x Hydra - 140pts - M
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L

SR9 Line battlegroup (268pts)
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L
1 x Hydra - 140pts - M
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L

SR7 Line battlegroup (179pts)
1 x Sphinx - 115pts - M
2 x Gargoyle - 64pts - L

SR3 Pathfinder battlegroup (129pts)
3 x Djinn - 129pts - L

SR4 Pathfinder battlegroup (168pts)
4 x Scylla - 168pts - L
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Will be bringing the second list on Tuesday so will see how it fares against your 9 corvette group, gulp!
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#3
Quote:Will be bringing the second list on Tuesday so will see how it fares against your 9 corvette group, gulp!

Haha yeah and you thought 6 echo was scary! Big Grin after last Tuesdays game I am thinking that calibre(l) is definitely a bit much!

That double battlecruiser list looks evil. The baslik/akuma is why I decided not to have any active scanners in my list. Is the second list based off how the first list did at the tournament?
Warhammer Fantasy Beastmen, Woodelves; Warhammer 40K Dark Eldar, Blood angels, Tyranids; Battlefleet Gothic Imperial, Dark Eldar; Saga Vikings; Guild ball Masons; Dropzone Commander & Dropfleet PHR, UCM(dropfleet only); Lord of the rings Mordor, Gundabad; Beyond the gates of Antares Ghar Outcast Rebels
Quote:"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears...in...rain."


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#4
In the tournament I don't think I used the Akuma & Basilisk that well, so the second list is more that I think I might do better with just 1, rather than I think the list itself is better. I don't have a Chimera cos i want to try out not having one and having more gargoyles to see which I prefer.
40K - Dark Angels, Dark Eldar, Necrons; Lord of the Rings - lots; Bloodbowl - Dwarves, Wood Elves; SAGA - Anglo Danes & Welsh; Guildball - Morticians, Engineers; Dropzone/fleet - Shaltari
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#5
I'm thinking of taking:

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DfC Escalation League R6 v2 - 1250pts
Shaltari - 0 launch assets

SR17 Flag battlegroup (320pts)
1 x Diamond - 290pts - S
   + Starchief (20pts, 4AV)
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR12 Vanguard battlegroup (274pts)
1 x Ruby - 200pts - H
2 x Topaz - 74pts - L

SR9 Line battlegroup (160pts)
1 x Emerald - 100pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR10 Line battlegroup (220pts)
2 x Amber - 220pts - M

SR9 Pathfinder battlegroup (160pts)
1 x Emerald - 100pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR2 Pathfinder battlegroup (96pts)
2 x Amethyst - 96pts - L
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Or

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DfC Escalation League R6 v3 - 1250pts
Shaltari - 0 launch assets

SR16 Flag battlegroup (305pts)
1 x Diamond - 290pts - S
   + Starchief (20pts, 4AV)
1 x Voidgate - 15pts - L

SR12 Vanguard battlegroup (274pts)
1 x Ruby - 200pts - H
2 x Topaz - 74pts - L

SR9 Line battlegroup (160pts)
1 x Emerald - 100pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR10 Line battlegroup (220pts)
2 x Amber - 220pts - M

SR9 Pathfinder battlegroup (160pts)
1 x Emerald - 100pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR3 Pathfinder battlegroup (111pts)
3 x Topaz - 111pts - L
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#6
I would go 2nd list Luke, although you will have to be careful with only 9 voidgates. The amethyst after the nerf to D3 + 1 is not worth the points except maybe a single one for active scans.
40K - Dark Angels, Dark Eldar, Necrons; Lord of the Rings - lots; Bloodbowl - Dwarves, Wood Elves; SAGA - Anglo Danes & Welsh; Guildball - Morticians, Engineers; Dropzone/fleet - Shaltari
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#7
Did you see the adepticon PHR list that won? Crazy list had 12 echo's, 3 troopships plus quite a few medea's, a single Bellerophon and some Europa's. Not suprised it won as echo's are mean!
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#8
(24-03-2018, 06:47 PM)jaqenhgar Wrote: I would go 2nd list Luke, although you will have to be careful with only 9 voidgates. The amethyst after the nerf to D3 + 1 is not worth the points except maybe a single one for active scans.

I haven't posted my list yet Chris Tongue

These Shaltari lists are all so alike...
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LOTR - Rohan, Mordor, Dwarves, Moria
Mordhiem - The Wild Rose Company (Dwarves)
Bloodbowl - Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Undead
Guildball - Brewers, Masons
Dropfleet - UCM, Scourge, Shaltari, PHR
Dropzone - UCM
XWing - Rebels, Imperials
Bolt Action - Fallschrimjager
Gates of Antares - Algoryn

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#9
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MM2 - 1250pts
Shaltari - 0 launch assets
SR16 Flag battlegroup (330pts)
1 x Diamond - 290pts - S
   + Starchief (20pts, 4AV)
1 x Opal - 40pts - L

SR12 Line battlegroup (250pts)
1 x Amber - 110pts - M
1 x Amber - 110pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR9 Line battlegroup (160pts)
1 x Emerald - 100pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR9 Line battlegroup (160pts)
1 x Emerald - 100pts - M
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L
2 x Voidgate - 30pts - L

SR8 Pathfinder battlegroup (182pts)
3 x Glass - 54pts - L
3 x Glass - 54pts - L
2 x Topaz - 74pts - L

SR4 Pathfinder battlegroup (148pts)
4 x Topaz - 148pts - L
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Here's the list I'm trying next, not completely sold on the glass but will give them a go.

Really waiting for the Destroyer Rules to leak as I feel like they'll be the elusive 6th group, replacing the glass/topaz group. The Opal is mostly there to provide another active scan.
Warhammer 40K - Knights of Saret (Space Marines), Cult of the Damned (Chaos/Daemons), 1st ERF (Astra Militarum)
LOTR - Rohan, Mordor, Dwarves, Moria
Mordhiem - The Wild Rose Company (Dwarves)
Bloodbowl - Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Undead
Guildball - Brewers, Masons
Dropfleet - UCM, Scourge, Shaltari, PHR
Dropzone - UCM
XWing - Rebels, Imperials
Bolt Action - Fallschrimjager
Gates of Antares - Algoryn

Currently Working On - SAGA - Vikings
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#10
Comments on the others;

Will - Having played it, I really like the theme of your list, although I get the concept of the 2 Taipei group I'm not a fan. If it were me I'd turn it into an Active Scan Group - Pathfinder 3 of Jakarta plus 2 New Orleans. These can all move independently and give your more drop as well as Frigates you can throw at critical locations, as well as 2 active scans if you need them.

Chris - I like both lists, but if you run into someone with lots of Corvettes (say 9!) you might struggle with the all Gargoyle list - it's pretty frigate heavy and the Calibar change we've introduced is pretty powerful.

JJ -  I prefer the second one, quite similar to mine! I think the Voidgates need to go with the Emeralds otherwise we're left hanging on the Blitzkrieg deployment, grouping them with the Diamond I've used in the last couple and it worked well. Having tried two Amethysts they were pretty useless, as Chris says I've used them as active scanners and the normally do quite well, the single Amethyst can then either go off to a critical location or harass frigate groups.

How does the Ruby do alongside the Diamond? I've got one but never used it.
Warhammer 40K - Knights of Saret (Space Marines), Cult of the Damned (Chaos/Daemons), 1st ERF (Astra Militarum)
LOTR - Rohan, Mordor, Dwarves, Moria
Mordhiem - The Wild Rose Company (Dwarves)
Bloodbowl - Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Undead
Guildball - Brewers, Masons
Dropfleet - UCM, Scourge, Shaltari, PHR
Dropzone - UCM
XWing - Rebels, Imperials
Bolt Action - Fallschrimjager
Gates of Antares - Algoryn

Currently Working On - SAGA - Vikings
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