20-03-2015, 04:33 PM
I agree to a large extent Vince, that the Internet is a problem for GW but mainly the GW policy on how they handle it, I remember back in the day they even had there own forum!!! But that turned in a nasty place for people to post hate posts after hate posts demanding answers or wanting changes, they just could not cope with people creating new profiles quicker than the MOD team could delete them. So they removed that. Which was a shame, it was a good place when I joined.
Then they had a central FB page which when I noticed it, it lasted less than a month, its now done on a local shop by shop basis I believe, youtube videos don't allow comments and they don't openly want feedback. I recommend people to listen to the allies of convenience they have some really interesting stances on GW, they always revert back to GW policies in each episode, so there is not a single episode to pick out.
I like a few comments that were made on the podcast about what we want as gamers and what GW perceive we want, basically the bloke said if GW really wanted a solid ruleset and for it to be tested, if they approached say 50 people from various places around the world most if not all would want to help with play testing rules and try to balance the game. If they wanted feedback all they would have to do is send a few interns into GW's or just Warhammer World gaming floor with clip boards with a questionnaire for a few hours to get feedback.. the consumers would love to give feedback, but gw don't, they have this iron curtain type stance of no ones allowed to know what they are doing and we all buy there plastic crack when then send something new to shelves. But there is no place to send feedback about it, the only place GW get feedback is through the tills....
I really liked those comments from different episodes and they really speaks volumes.
GW don't run proper tournaments anymore, which was an active step away from the competitive scene, but in reality the competitive scene shapes GW, without Justin Cook winning Nova with Ovesa bomb, people don't buy Riptides on mass, they buy a balanced Tau army, without people doing well with Eldar Wave Serpent spam, people don't buy Serpents on mass, they buy Falcons first or Fire Prisms, if people win big events it shapes what people perceive as good and they copy because they know it works, they base lists around that initial idea, it saves money, because you look at a Serpent vs Falcon on paper, they look close, but in reality the Serpent is far superior. I do and I know many people who look at tournament results and copy the top lists (Look at Necron Wraith Spam from the Cally 2013 army list document, there was about 10-20 lists that were within 50pts of being identical, the examples don't end there just look at a rising giant.. Eldar Hornets from Forge World, they are good, but at the GT Heat3, I was won of 2 or 3 people at most that had them, only 1 list had 9!!, then Cally just a few months after, there were had masses, the GT final had loads as well.. all because people had done well with Hornets in previous events. Then you look at the forums and what people talk about most Eldar lists will have a comment saying.. you need Hornets or you need more Hornets...
If GW opened up there doors to a few months of criticism, because people are going to hate, once people got the hate off there chests and GW actually embraced what people are saying, I think they would crush many other companies that exist only because of GW's inept ability to talk to us consumers, produce solid rule-sets and then FAQ to keep things balanced.
Lol that turned ranty ahaha
Then they had a central FB page which when I noticed it, it lasted less than a month, its now done on a local shop by shop basis I believe, youtube videos don't allow comments and they don't openly want feedback. I recommend people to listen to the allies of convenience they have some really interesting stances on GW, they always revert back to GW policies in each episode, so there is not a single episode to pick out.
I like a few comments that were made on the podcast about what we want as gamers and what GW perceive we want, basically the bloke said if GW really wanted a solid ruleset and for it to be tested, if they approached say 50 people from various places around the world most if not all would want to help with play testing rules and try to balance the game. If they wanted feedback all they would have to do is send a few interns into GW's or just Warhammer World gaming floor with clip boards with a questionnaire for a few hours to get feedback.. the consumers would love to give feedback, but gw don't, they have this iron curtain type stance of no ones allowed to know what they are doing and we all buy there plastic crack when then send something new to shelves. But there is no place to send feedback about it, the only place GW get feedback is through the tills....
I really liked those comments from different episodes and they really speaks volumes.
GW don't run proper tournaments anymore, which was an active step away from the competitive scene, but in reality the competitive scene shapes GW, without Justin Cook winning Nova with Ovesa bomb, people don't buy Riptides on mass, they buy a balanced Tau army, without people doing well with Eldar Wave Serpent spam, people don't buy Serpents on mass, they buy Falcons first or Fire Prisms, if people win big events it shapes what people perceive as good and they copy because they know it works, they base lists around that initial idea, it saves money, because you look at a Serpent vs Falcon on paper, they look close, but in reality the Serpent is far superior. I do and I know many people who look at tournament results and copy the top lists (Look at Necron Wraith Spam from the Cally 2013 army list document, there was about 10-20 lists that were within 50pts of being identical, the examples don't end there just look at a rising giant.. Eldar Hornets from Forge World, they are good, but at the GT Heat3, I was won of 2 or 3 people at most that had them, only 1 list had 9!!, then Cally just a few months after, there were had masses, the GT final had loads as well.. all because people had done well with Hornets in previous events. Then you look at the forums and what people talk about most Eldar lists will have a comment saying.. you need Hornets or you need more Hornets...
If GW opened up there doors to a few months of criticism, because people are going to hate, once people got the hate off there chests and GW actually embraced what people are saying, I think they would crush many other companies that exist only because of GW's inept ability to talk to us consumers, produce solid rule-sets and then FAQ to keep things balanced.
Lol that turned ranty ahaha